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Post by Nimrod on Sept 11, 2004 19:32:33 GMT -5
Anyone know if we have to put up with another season of this horrible show?
Last I heard it was up in the air and I haven't heard anything since.
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Post by amalgamas on Sept 11, 2004 22:08:08 GMT -5
last time i heard they mean to finish the current ARC, then if they get a good enough rating on the season finale they will make another season
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Post by isaacjoule on Sept 12, 2004 12:45:16 GMT -5
I think Enterprise will manage a fourth season and then it's finished. At least, I hope it's finished.
I'd much rather see a show that takes place in the TNG era. something post 2380.
It's not likely to happen. The next Star Trek movie will be about the Earth-Romulan war which starts in 2156 (or there abouts) which according to the Enterprise calender would be either late season 4 or early season 5.
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Post by Nimrod on Sept 12, 2004 13:03:55 GMT -5
I'd much rather see a show that takes place in the TNG era. something post 2380. How bout something like a TV movie to wrap up what happened to the Voyager crew? We all know what happened to Janeway but what about the rest? That's the biggest thing that pissed me off about the end of voyager. It was a "oh we're home" and that's it. The next Star Trek movie will be about the Earth-Romulan war which starts in 2156 (or there abouts) which according to the Enterprise calender would be either late season 4 or early season 5. You're kidding me right? Dear lord, I thought they learned their lesson with the failure of Nemesis. |
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Post by amalgamas on Sept 12, 2004 14:51:00 GMT -5
If they learned their lesson would any Star Trek movies have come out after the first movie or the fifth? they want to make money, and this is their latest ploy. I do agree with nimrod though, they should make a made-for-tv movie on what happened at the end of voyager before they do anything else with Enterprise.
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Post by Vash on Sept 12, 2004 19:48:20 GMT -5
Enterprise will continue until they reach 100 episodes to reach syndication requirements or something. Past that, its up in the air.
Enterprise isnt the worst show I've ever seen, I think we all have such lofty expectations from Star Trek that when the show began (and began sucking) we just wrote it off. Season 3 actually had some pretty decent episodes (namely Twilight). I stopped hating it so much when I lowered my expectations a bit. Nevertheless, I still want something better from Star Trek, I think the only hope it has right now is to get rid of Rick Berman and Brannon Braga. Braga only cares about doing what he wants, whether it fits in the continuity or not, and he should be gotten rid of.
As for the movies, I'd love to see something with the DS9 cast. Maybe show what happens when Sisko comes back from the Prophets or something. And that could also be used as a way to get everyone back together again, what with so many people having left the station.
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Post by isaacjoule on Sept 12, 2004 23:09:30 GMT -5
I haven't seen much of Enterprise, I'm hoping for a Gundam X effect. I'll watch it AFTER it gets canned.
I've heard Enterprise has done a few good things. The Andorians vs Vulcans thing seems to be pretty interesting. The Xendi seem to be pretty interesting - then they magically disappear for TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, etc.
As for the next movie - I'm not kidding. The next war will be between two sides who don't even get to see each other face to face until TOS's "Balance of Terror."
According to Star Trek history BEFORE ENT came out, the first contact with Romulans involved them nuking a civilian ship attempting to colonize Romulus.
By the way, what was wrong with Nemesis? Other than the whole desert scene, I thought it was pretty good.
As far as a new series - I'd like to see Sulu with the Excelsior, but I fear George Takei is probably too old to do such a series. The next best thing would be Riker and the Titan.
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Post by Xenocide on Sept 13, 2004 18:41:34 GMT -5
Well, I'm not very much into Trek, and I actually refused to watch any ST show other than TNG for a very long time. I'm actually starting to like ST now, and I realize just how much ENT has truely messed things up. VOY's odditys were acceptable, but ENT is just throwing stuff in there to make arcs that generally suck. I didn't like the Xindi thing at all, and like Mike said, first contact with the Romulans didn't have until TOS.
I personally thought that Nemisis was an okay movie, I enjoyed it enough to where I might actually buy the movie if I get more into Star Trek than I am right now. But for the time being, I'll just stick to watch TOS on Sci-Fi and TNG/DS9 on Spike when I can catch it.
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Post by Nimrod on Sept 13, 2004 19:03:30 GMT -5
As for the next movie - I'm not kidding. The next war will be between two sides who don't even get to see each other face to face until TOS's "Balance of Terror." According to Star Trek history BEFORE ENT came out, the first contact with Romulans involved them nuking a civilian ship attempting to colonize Romulus. Oh man. This is not a good move. I always knew Braga was an idiot but now he's getting into George Lucas terrority. Rick Berman isn't an innocent in this either. I bet Gene Rodenberry would be rolling over in his grave right now if all this is true if he wasn't shot out into space after he died. By the way, what was wrong with Nemesis? Other than the whole desert scene, I thought it was pretty good. Other than the whole "we need to kill someone, so let's kill Data" and try to go for the whole "OMG they killed Spock" vibe again. I mean, it was killing someone just to kill someone. When Nemesis ended the first thought I had was "What the hell was that". If you asked me, Nemesis broke the "Even-odd" rule with the Star Trek films. As far as a new series - I'd like to see Sulu with the Excelsior, but I fear George Takei is probably too old to do such a series. The next best thing would be Riker and the Titan. The titan with Riker and Troi would be a great idea for another show. Since they're on the edge on feddie space anyway, they have an excuse to be meeting new cultures and new civilations. This stuff writes itself if braga and berman weren't too busy sucking each others dicks. |
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Post by Vash on Sept 13, 2004 20:10:21 GMT -5
I bet Gene Rodenberry would be rolling over in his grave right now if all this is true if he wasn't shot out into space after he died. Actually, he'd probably be more mad about DS9. Look at how politically correct and pacifistic TNG was before he died and Berman took over. DS9 is a total 180, and I dont think he'd approve. Although this doesnt change the fact that DS9 was easily the best trek series  |
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Post by isaacjoule on Sept 13, 2004 21:31:32 GMT -5
Actually, he'd probably be more mad about DS9. Look at how politically correct and pacifistic TNG was before he died and Berman took over. DS9 is a total 180, and I dont think he'd approve. Although this doesnt change the fact that DS9 was easily the best trek series Gene Roddenberry was an atheist, not only that, he was strongly anti religion. He'd disapprove of DS9 purely on the grounds that the Bajoran religion had a strong role in the story. I liked TOS and TNG a lot, but one thing that they lacked, that DS9, VOY and even ENT have is a major obsticle in the path of the heros. TOS sort of had the Klingons, but they changed Klingons EVERY episode. TNG usually had some kind of naturally occuring event as their obsticle...which usually involved a technobabble solution concocted by Data, Geordi or...Wesley. DS9 comes along - BAM! Obsticles all over the place. Bajorans resisting the Cardassians, the Federation managing a fragile peace between themselves adn the Cardassians AND the Bajorans and Cardassians. Then you have the Klingons and Dominion causing trouble. DS9 gave us obsticles that required peaceful solutions in some instances and military solutions other times. VOY has it's own obsticles. They just weren't interesting. Seven of Nine and her bitchyness wasn't a help. Janeway and Seven vs the Borg Queen was an obsticle...which ended REALLY REALLY STUPIDLY. So yes, Voyager had it's own obsticle, but it wasn't very interesting. ENT has the Xendi, Xindi, whatever. I couldn't care less about it. However, there is that Vulcan vs Andorian thing which I am interested in, however, I won't watch ENT until it's cancelled or ends  Future Star Trek series can't be exclusively about exploration. A series set in the 24th century will have to focus on maintaining the Federation moreso than anything else. Which means - The next series could be a mobile DS9 - A ship assigned to the outskirts of the Federation, etc. While the E-D was often that far out - it was at DS9 three times total for instance, as I said earlier, TNG never had much of a focus. At least, that's my opinion. Looking to Star Trek's past to a war where the entire fleet of Starfleet ships should look like giant metal space-blimps would be stupid. |
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Post by Nimrod on Feb 3, 2005 11:58:38 GMT -5
Well, I guess we can offically now say Enterprise is done and will soon be gone. www.insidepulse.com/article.php?contentid=31720I haven't watched much of it this season, mostly due to the fact that I'm rarely home when its on TV here, so I don't know if I'm missing anything good or not but judging from the past seaosn I'm glad that its being canned. |
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Post by Vash on Feb 22, 2005 14:48:20 GMT -5
It's kind of sad/funny to see groups like save enterprise trying to keep the show alive. They even suggest that people make donations to pay for the show, failing to realize that production costs are over a million dollars per episode.
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Post by Tunks on Feb 22, 2005 15:40:15 GMT -5
Not being a fan of Trek in any of it's forms, I can't say I'm crying over this...
But my friend did get me to watch a couple of eps before he moved, can't say I was impressed. My Uncles had me watching early TNG when it originaly aired, and honestly it's not that big of a loss. Notice how the not existant fan base of anything only starts to exist when they realize what they're to ashamed to admit they love is about to DIE.
*laughs to herself*
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Post by Nimrod on Feb 22, 2005 15:47:07 GMT -5
Not being a fan of Trek in any of it's forms, I can't say I'm crying over this... But my friend did get me to watch a couple of eps before he moved, can't say I was impressed. My Uncles had me watching early TNG when it originaly aired, and honestly it's not that big of a loss. Notice how the not existant fan base of anything only starts to exist when they realize what they're to ashamed to admit they love is about to DIE. *laughs to herself* You're right, the fans for this are rather sad since the hardcores were ripping it form the beginning only to be begging for it to return. I remember when some fans used to protest outside of paramount because they didn't liek Enterprise's Theme song. |
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